From: zeke
To: john h
Date: 10 Feb 2008, 11:15:01 AM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
Just learned the following TRUTH about John McCain, Rep. candidate for presidency:
"Bauer said McCain would go a long way toward reconciling with his
critics by emphasizing his opposition to abortion and his support --
not at the federal level, but at the state level in Arizona -- for a
ban on same-sex marriage."
For the full article, see:
Christian right's Bauer endorses McCain
What absolutely DISGUSTS me is how WILFULLY he'll assert homophobia, in
order to court the Religious Reich! McCain is ENCOURAGING all states to
outlaw gay marriage! Whadda nice gay-friendly guy, eh? Didn't he at
some time in the recent past, court the gay votes? Didn't he assert not
too long ago, some sort of gay FRIENDLINESS in his campaign?
Don't say I didn't warn you (my cyberspace audience, who at present may
have not been acquainted with me at the time I made my original
declaration re. McCain. Which is thus:)
"Any presidential candidate who rides around in a converted school bus,
with large signs bragging 'Straight Talk' throughout the south, is
certainly NO friend to queers. For, just as the Supreme Court willingly
accepted the BSA's spin on the definition of 'straight' as a sexual
connotation, while OBVIOUSLY the intent of such word (as it appears in
the Boy Scout Oath of morality) was to suggest "straight as an arrow"
or IOW: completely true to the Boy Scout Oath. NO suggestion of
heterosexuality whatsover...yet the Supreme Court intentionally CHOSE
to stand by a BLATANT attack on sexual minorities."
And you wanna bet this MRSA scare
intentionally fomented by certain medical researchers AND a major Bay
Area newspaper, is not now influencing Right Wing (and even Left Wing)
politicos, to start VOCIFERATING the rounding up and total extinction
of homosexual vermin...if they wanna gain the most votes?
Don't you also think The Reich is this VERY MOMENT preaching the evil,
not just of homosexuality, but of any HETERO who promulgates acceptance
of these deviants PREVIOUSLY punished in Biblical Times by Jehovah's
Wise Wrath (Sodom & Gomorrah)? Does not Heath Ledger's recent
demise serve as Lot's Lesson in a more contemporary parable...along
with that of Matthew Shepard?"
From: john h
To: zeke
Date: 11 Feb 2008, 09:30:11 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
McCain is both a jerkoff and an old man (Bronx Mike's age).
The stupid bastard was on Letterman and in the course of speech, said "second
of all". You NEVER say "second of all". It's first of all, secondly. The
only "of all" to be singled out is first.
McCain is losing it. The ignorant sonofabitch has flip-flopped on a number of
issues. I'm not surprised he got around to this one. He doesn't believe in
anything anymore than this little drunken faggot in there now, with one
exception: big oil. McCain is kissing their asses. Even Hillary is kissing up
to big oil.
I wanted John Edwards, but he dropped out. Obama seems sincere. But, the
election is a theatrical farce, a front. The secret world government
illuminati conspiracy has already chosen who it will be, at the Bilderberg
Conference last summer. It might be Hillary.
From: zeke
To: john h
Date: 12 Feb 2008, 12:10:18 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
John writes:
{{ McCain is both a jerkoff and an old man (Bronx Mike's age). }}
He's outrageously back-stabbing towards gays. We are at the point in US
history, where candidates feel pressured to speak OUT against gays
DIRECTLY, or they'll lose their votes, and even any present office they
might enjoy holding. Anyone for gay civil rights will be executed. Thus
eliminating the Dems from any willingness to work with, by idiot,
right-wing goons and their ass-lickers.
Which is a HUGE chunk of this nation...almost 50%.
{{ I wanted John Edwards, but he dropped out. Obama
seems sincere. But, the election is a theatrical farce, a front. The
secret world government illuminati conspiracy has already chosen who it
will be, at the Bilderberg Conference last summer. It might be Hillary.
}}
ANY of the candidates would've been okay for the Illuminati. They are
alright with EITHER Obama or Clinton. But with another Republican in
office, they'll have a field day, wreaking havoc and disaster wherever
they trot!
From: Warren Q.
To: zeke
Date: 12 Feb 2008, 05:24:35 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
McCain said that he wanted to appoint more
Justices like Antonin Scalia - Bush's favorite Justice.
Scalia, the Good Catholic, when asked about Constitutional rights for gays,
replied, "Easy question. It was a crime in all 50 states for 200 years".
The media doesn't even make note of such comments,
as it were completely unimportant. That is why we need
a war, not a civil rights movement. We would not be ready for
such an innocent thing as a civil rights movement, until a
war is done, and lot of people have died over it.
The gay population cannot believe that. They think that
all they have to do is click their heels and say "There is
no place like home", and everything'll be better, right around
the next rainbow. They don't want to confront the fact that Kansas,
the "Fred Phelps" state, went overwhelmingly for Huckabee,
who defended past remarks about HIV concentration camps,
while the fawning media incessantly talks about how "affable" he is.
When I say "war," I am not speaking figuratively.
People will need to die, before this could change.
Nothing else could have the potency to get our jaded
and self-satisfied society past their "business as usual"
complacency.
From: zeke
To: Warren Q.
Date: 12 Feb 2008, 08:39:01 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
Warren Q. writes:
{{ The media doesn't even make note of such
comments, as it were completely unimportant. That is why we need a war,
not a civil rights movement. }}
I'm doing my best to get the ball rollin', Warren! Hopefully, my
present adventure w/certain scumbags in my building, will TRIGGER this
war via "The Butterfly Effect."
I have a KEEN sense of my destiny, and it CLEARLY shows me an
instigator of global revolution headed by gays. It will usher in World
War Three.
From: Warren Q.
To: zeke
Date: 13 Feb 2008, 05:43:25 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
Ezekiel wrote:
{{ me an instigator of global revolution headed by gays. It will usher in World War Three. }}
It is interesting that you should mention WWIII. I have long
had a personal superstition (hunch? prescience?) that gays will
be to WWIII what Jews were to WWII, or blacks to the American
Civil War. We are the ultimate symptom of a societial
soul-sickness of obsessive hatred that most defines our
culture's real personality. Their capacity to survive is measured
in how well they can cease their legacy of hate against us-
and they are failing, miserably. Their own bully-boy,
hateful ways will be the death of them, because it colors
everything that they do, including their disregard of
environment and their forays into war.
I think that most people in our country have gotten the notion
that the biggest concern is with terrorist groups, but I think
that they are mistaken. They think that advanced nations have
too much sense and restraint to get into all-out war.
I think that is dead wrong. The real danger in this world
is conflict between superpowers. It is very easy to see how
that will happen. Things change, whenever the world
economy goes through a major economic depression and
people start getting desperate, and countries start fighting
over oil, because so much is at stake. Wealth and success
if you have it, poverty and humiliation, if you don't. When
you see personalities like Bush and Putin, all it would take
someday is for two fascists who refuse to let the other
push them around, escalate to the max.
The American people are barely aware of the times that
we almost came to all-out war, already, in past decades,
when the economy was much better. I don't believe for
one minute that the heads of state have the sense or
the right character to avoid conflict in times of extreme
stress.
From: zeke
To: Warren Q.
Date: 14 Feb 2008, 08:28:12 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
Warren Q. writes:
{{ It is interesting that you should mention
WWIII. I have long had a personal superstition (hunch? prescience?)
that gays will be to WWIII what Jews were to WWII, or blacks to the
American Civil War. }}
We've discussed this in previous missives. My consideration of WWIII
has finally evolved into a prophetic vision of gay liberation. Don't
know if you've read all my chapters thus far, that I've posted my
e-friends. But there are at least THREE seperate pieces that tie in gay
rights with the next global holocaust. Thusly:
-------
There's A Succubus Born Every Minute (Friendly Ghost Detective Agency)
"I am ALSO convinced at this point in my incredible adventures of late,
that there is at least ONE powerful agency on the side of
righteousness...and they are guiding us, training us, preparing us. For
what?
WORLD WAR THREE. But not the Apocalypse so beloved by Xian rednecks
and murderous goons. The Celtic (and pre-Celtic) lore had it correct,
regarding "The End Times". It will be "The War Of The Wizards", a final
battle where the Good shall be victorious, and reign over earth
forevermore, in peace, prosperity, joy, fulfillment, and most
DEFINITELY: Gay Liberation."
-------
The Tricks At 2306 (Friendly Ghost Detective Agency)
"WORLD WAR THREE is knocking, knocking
Scratching
Mocking
Pawing
Rapping
Gnawing
Whacking
Goring
Solicitor-Whoring
At my chamber door."
-------
Rerry Rissruss Rarkin (The Larkin Chronicles)
"But it's also LOVE in its truest, most devoted, angelic form. A path
of bloody, sweaty, teary sacrifice and holocaust agony for MOST of
one's difficult life. IOW: your TYPICAL existance if you're gay and
born in Amerika. Peacetime for others, wartime for queers. But in times
of WAR we're needed and appreciated. We make the best warriors AND
lovers. World War II opened the door for gay liberation as well as
women's rights! So if you're LGB or T, too (or a free-minded gal) and
wanna live in glorious gay-friendly times, then pray for World War
Three. It will liberate ALL sexual minorities everywhere! You like
dudes with big cannons, don't ya? (Or dudettes.)"
So what I've done, is manifest a credible philosophy of "Gay suicide
activism". As Muslims believe in sacrificing their lives for Allah,
I've presented a pro-gay equivalent! Perhaps as the originator of this
idea, I should set the paramount example, by sacrificing my OWN life in
some dramatic scenario AGAINST this or that homophobic politico or
institution.
However, I do not see this maneuver as the most effective way to
promulgate gay liberation...at least, not for my own self, whose
writings are more valuable to disperse, than my own pieces of flesh.
The point being: it is a most NOBLE thing to give up your life for gay
rights, if it comes to that. IOW: be not afraid of the homophobes! If
speaking out against them leads to the rending of your own body, so be
it. Bring it on!
The volatility of gay issues is such that is has great POTENTIAL to
trigger the third global war. IF one can inspire a strategic rebellion
far more CLEVER than anything a heterosexist can pull off. The very
idea that World War III is the key to gay liberation is MOST ironic.
That places me in the same camp as OTHER zealots (Muslim terrorists
being a perfect parallel), since we BOTH see this global war as the
destruction of Satan, and the liberation of the chosen. Whereas the
Islams see heavenly reward as a concubine of lovely females, I see the
GAY rewards as a concubine of same-sex lovers.
What you seem to EXCLUDE from your WWIII prophecy, is the aspect of
spiritual intervention. You perceive a dismal future of many post-war
centuries of a decimated world, which will eventually result in a
gay-friendly society. Whereas myself, OTOH, perceive a brilliant
future, immediately post-war, where gays are protected by angels. Even
during the horrid war, the gay chosen shall live a glorious life amidst
the nuclear chaos.
This of course, implies MAGIC and other paranormal properties. YOUR
interpretation totally excludes all but the most materialistic spin.
Yet, you DO believe in the paranormal, albeit it in mostly DARK ways.
{{ We are the ultimate symptom of a societial
soul-sickness of obsessive hatred that most defines our culture's real
personality. Their capacity to survive is measured in how well they can
cease their legacy of hate against us - and they are failing,
miserably. Their own bully-boy, hateful ways will be the death of them,
because it colors everything that they do, including their disregard of
environment and their forays into war. }}
Well, that's a positive interpretation that meshes with my own views.
{{ I think that most people in our country have
gotten the notion that the biggest concern is with terrorist groups,
but I think that they are mistaken. They think that advanced nations
have too much sense and restraint to get into all-out war. }}
An "advanced nation" overrun by zealous, hetero nut jobs, as is
Amerika, clearly shows this danger. And predicts the inevitable, by
default. My point in the likely global nuclear holocaust, is that there
will be a relative handful of folks who will neither SUFFER, nor
participate in, this devastation. And they are, for the most part,
homosexuals. Of course, this is not possible unless there exists a
spiritual dimension above and beyond the material.
{{ I don't believe for one minute that the heads of
state have the sense or the right character to avoid conflict in times
of extreme stress. }}
No, they're scallywags (to use a polite term). Radioactive pollution
will result in sterile breeders. No other way will be left to
propagate, except through various forms of artificial insemination,
including cloning. Gays lead the way!
From: Warren Q.
To: zeke
Date: 15 Feb 2008, 08:44:58 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
Ezekiel wrote: {{ the Good shall be
victorious, and reign over earth forevermore, in peace, prosperity,
joy, fulfillment, and most DEFINITELY: Gay Liberation. }}
It is a natural byproduct.
It was the same German qualities that inclined them to hateful
anti-Semitism that also led them into self-destructive warfare.
You can see the same thing in America and Russia.
The ones who are homophobes are also warmongers.
Certain things go naturally hand-in-hand, like
religious intolerance, xenophobia and nationalism.
They think that homophobia is a survival trait,
preserving the species, but the opposite is true.
Those who cannot make peace with gays also
cannot make peace with each other. They will kill each
other off.
It is like Darwinism. In the long run, only the
enlightened and cooperative will survive, only
the honest and only people who can manage
a bit of empathy, manage to rise above the
extreme self-centeredness that now marks our
culture.'
It is like entropy. A non-homophobic society
will prove to be the only stable one that is
possible. Anything else will lead to constant
confrontation - a fact which is our duty to make true,
but it is only human nature.
So of course we have to be liberated. I expect
it to be a bloody road, but inevitable outcome,
like the outcome of the Civil War.
From: zeke
To: Warren Q.
Date: 16 Feb 2008, 14:17:32 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
Warren Q. writes:
{{ You can see the same thing in America and Russia. The ones who are homophobes are also warmongers. }}
Incredible, ain't it? The nature of the barbarian.
{{ They think that homophobia is a survival trait, preserving the species, but the opposite is true. }}
One's feelings and opinions about homosexuality will become homo
sapien's most VITAL litmus test of humaneness, and thus The Golden Rule.
This implies a great DESTINY for sexual minorities, with 100%
homosexuals in the lead! (Natch, the BUTCH ones shall bring up the
rear...ha ha.)
{{ It is like entropy. A non-homophobic society will prove to be the only stable one that is possible. }}
I am breathless at the realization.
{{ Anything else will lead to constant confrontation - a fact which is our duty to make true,}}
I think we've BOTH done incredibly well in our mission. It is therefore
INEVITABLE that our ideas, our writings etc. will very soon TAKE OFF
like a bird on wing, to travel the globe in all directions. That is
simply natural law on the psychic realm: "With belief In gay selfhood
for your building bricks, hard work eventually pays off".
{{ but it is only human nature. }}
Yes, but a nature that became GROSSLY distorted by an evil psychic
virus that infested man in ancient times. Remembered as a Hebrew Fable
in the story of Cain and Abel.
The first CRIME in history, The Mother Of All Crimes. Brother slays
brother. Why? Jealousy over his bro's larger COCK size. Which vital
tidbit was eliminated by The Servants of Patriarchy. IOW: homophobia!
But all the male-on-male sex passages were sterilized by breeder
mandate...castrated by eunuchs (who were only too happy to return the
favor, albeit metaphorically). I don't know WHICH camp actually has the
greater number of jealous queens: gay OR straight.
It is now time for "this nature" to beginning healing our planet, in
order to turn us all in a better direction. Thus, more and more power
is diverted to the truly DECENT and most long-suffering among us: GAYS.
And, we are evolving quite rapidly, into a global, telepathic network
of like minds...all respectful, brilliant, creative, adventuresome and
most DEFINITELY: homosexual.
{{ So of course we have to be liberated. I expect
it to be a bloody road, but inevitable outcome, like the outcome of the
Civil War. }}
Well, it sure makes for good heavy-metal fantasy. MY tastes lean less towards blood, and more towards complete vaporization. :b
Now, is it my imagination, bad memory or what? I've never heard you
speak so POSITIVELY before until quite recently. But maybe I'm
mistaking your more expansive insights built on earlier ones, for "more
positive," when really, you've been there all along and are simply
sharing additional wisdom for which you didn't think I was prepared
prior to this.
I'm smoking good pot BTW.
From: Warren Q.
To: zeke
Date: 16 Feb 2008, 07:26:21 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
Ezekiel wrote:
{{ Now, is it my imagination, bad memory or what? I've never heard you speak so POSITIVELY before until quite recently. }}
There are times when I feel like Hamlet, in a hopeless situation,
wanting just to self-destruct in rebellion against an outrageous
situation, as a way of rescuing a bit of dignity and not feeling
completely helpless, by refusing to go along any longer.
I don't say that the least in pretension, just a matter of fact
of an analogy that really fits. I am not really a big Shakespeare fan,
because the language is too frustrating to try to follow. I just
understand the basic plotline.
I feel a bit like a Nat Turner, wanting to burn down master's mansion,
surrounded by fellow slaves who are horrified, profess their
love and devotion to their master, their high-horse condemnation
of violent alternatives and refusal to believe that it is necessary.
They spend their time in the fields, happily singing Gospel songs,
and expressing their appreciation for having been brought to a
country where they have better food, and opportunity to learn
about the the love of Jesus Christ.
Mostly, they fear and ignore you, except for a small handful
of sympathetic souls, You wonder- could you ever rally
them, or is it just on a road to ignominious self-destruction and
jail/torture/nightmare?
I do, however, have my positive moments. I couldn't really
label as positive/negative, yay-nay. To be a mixed bag of
contradictory things is the human condition, really the way
that most people are.
Maybe a good analogy of the positive side was a scene
from the most recent "King-Kong" remake. More
down-to-earth than Shakespeare. Kong spent
a miserable day, wildly fighting giant lizards, etc. But he
sat on his mountain retreat, and his tiny love, the captive
woman, looked out on the sea, the tropical forests,
the glorious sunset, and said in awe, "It is beautiful! ..."
From: zeke
To: Warren Q.
Date: 17 Feb 2008, 06:39:41 PM
Subject: Re: McCain's the devil
Warren Q. writes:
{{ I feel a bit like a Nat Turner, }}
Who by the way was a zealous VISIONARY, even called "The Prophet" among
his own. I feel a parallel in our own powerful drive to beat down
homophobia for good.
{{ wanting to burn down master's mansion,
surrounded by fellow slaves who are horrified, profess their
love and devotion to their master, }}
They have no souls. Zombies, empty husks programmed to do De Massah's bidding. Social engineering.
{{ Mostly, they fear and ignore you, except for a small handful
of sympathetic souls, You wonder- could you ever rally
them, or is it just on a road to ignominious self-destruction and
jail/torture/nightmare? }}
There are ways of testing their trustworthiness, via surreptitious
methods...so they don't ever realize they're being tested. But don't go
ahead with the test, if revealing them as actually anti-gay will be too
much trauma for you to handle. Rest assured though: among your
apparantly gay friendly circle of self-proclaimed hetero "friends", 99
times out of 100, they'll prove to be hypocrites.
{{ Maybe a good analogy of the positive side was a scene
from the most recent "King-Kong" remake. More
down-to-earth than Shakespeare. Kong spent
a miserable day, wildly fighting giant lizards, etc. But he
sat on his mountain retreat, and his tiny love, the captive
woman, looked out on the sea, the tropical forests,
the glorious sunset, and said in awe, "It is beautiful! ..." }}
Wow, what an excellent analogy! Completely under the control of a
brutal beast (as is homophobia for us), the victim convinces herself it
is nonetheless a beautiful day. Brainwashing is facilitated by the
natural desire to perceive oneself as existing in a HAPPY reality.
Anyone attempting to pop this bubble of illusion is regarded...
as enemy.
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